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Xeones The Great · Jan 02, 2007, 12:20 AM // 00:20

answer these for pvp and pve

1- whats the best healing elite?
2- whats the best secondary for e-management?
3- whats the best e-management skill that doesnt require too many attribute points in the respective attribute?
4- healing breeze. yes or no?
5- signet of devotion or signet of rejuvenation?
6- woh/infuse...does it work?

plz dont tell me to try them out myself, because i sorta have, but i need experienced opinions, thx =]

Sasuke The Betrayer · Jan 02, 2007, 12:31 AM // 00:31

W/Mo! lol.

1. There is no best, but as far as healing elite goes, some really nice ones are

Zealous Benediction
Word of Healing
Light of Deliverance
n some others I forgot.

2. For e management, you tend to see alot of /Me around, because they can do various things such as Mantra of Recall. Or a /N can use Offering of Blood. I've seen a couple monks use /E, using the new buffed glyph of lesser energy.

3. Really can't answer that, it all depends.

4. Healing Breeze=NO NO NO NO. Unless your a W/Mo .... just kidding. If your gonna monk, don't bother bringing healing breeze. It can be shattered constantly by enemies which'll hurt more then it'll heal. I advise something like ethereal light (Factions skill), and even though you'd get interrupted when hit when casting, I doubt you will as you'd be in backline.

5. Sig of Devo is a + in PvP, as you heal very decently. Boon Prots have high divine favor making sig of devo excellent. Signet of Rejuvenation would be good for something like monking in a BP group. The rangers would consistently attack,a nd using SoR would give them a whopping 140+ heal.

6. WoH=Excellent ... Infuse= Excellent in PVP. Infuse isn't needed in PvE, but its excellent with PvP as you can counter large spikes quickly if your fast enough.

Another type is to use gift of health when your running prot. Gift of health won't affect itself, and any other spells because it should be your only healing spell. It should be around 9-10 with a minor rune, giving a very nice heal for a pretty low attribute.

Xeones The Great · Jan 02, 2007, 12:55 AM // 00:55

i think, after all this, im gonna run something like this for PvE:
Mo/E

healing - 16
DF - 13

woh{E}
orison
sig devotion
glyph of lesser energy
heal party
dwayna's kiss
healing touch
restore life

or

Mo/Me

healing - 16
DF - 12
inspiration - 6

woh{E}
orison
dwayna's kiss
healing touch
ether signet
signet of devotion
signet of rejuvenation
restore life

so, which one?

Sasuke The Betrayer · Jan 02, 2007, 04:49 AM // 04:49

If you use inspiration, take inspired hex. Restore Life is a no no, never ever bring it. Use the extra attribs into protection and take Rebirth (Its the best, trust me). A monk doesn't want to be wasting time rezz'ing in battle. Using rebirth let's you rez out of aggro range, meaning you can rez out of battle, making rebirth awesome. Let other professions with rez signet, rez in battle, not you. Like I said, I suggest ethereal light. If I chose, I would choose the one above. As a monk, your not supposed to need e management in Pve because if you spam those 5 energy high heal spells (Ethereal, WoH etc) You won't need ANY energy management. But I'd choose the top skill set.

Kuja · Jan 02, 2007, 08:05 AM // 08:05

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Originally Posted by Xeones The Great

answer these for pvp and pve

1- whats the best healing elite? Now with ZB its hard to take woh anymore my mistake, id LoD for PvE or in pvp Lod/Hboon in HA/GVG. I am biased against glimmer since they nerfed it
2- whats the best secondary for e-management? /Skill After that /mesmer /ele
3- whats the best e-management skill that doesnt require too many attribute points in the respective attribute? Channeling and Glyph of lesser energy are two solid ones.
4- healing breeze. yes or no? Just say no to HB.
5- signet of devotion or signet of rejuvenation? Sig of Devo. Sees much more use bc in Divine Favor line sig of rejuv isn't too bad for PvE healing builds.
6- woh/infuse...does it work? Course it does...been around forever, it replaced SB infuse but its still as effective a skill itself.

plz dont tell me to try them out myself, because i sorta have, but i need experienced opinions, thx =]

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Pick Me · Jan 02, 2007, 03:04 PM // 15:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xeones The Great

answer these for pvp and pve

1- whats the best healing elite?
2- whats the best secondary for e-management?
3- whats the best e-management skill that doesnt require too many attribute points in the respective attribute?
4- healing breeze. yes or no?
5- signet of devotion or signet of rejuvenation?
6- woh/infuse...does it work?

plz dont tell me to try them out myself, because i sorta have, but i need experienced opinions, thx =]

1) Zelous Benediction or Blessed Light (I like BL better - but for pure healing, ZB)
2) /Mesmer
3) Glyph Of Lesser Energy (requires none)
4) No. You should remove hexes and conditions instead of covering them up.
5) Signet of Devotion. Quicker recharge and better heal.
6) Yes. Get ZB instead, as it will heal for the same, but it will also cost 0 energy.

Xeones The Great · Jan 02, 2007, 03:43 PM // 15:43

wtf pick me, do u see my attributes? 16 heal 12 divine 6 inspiration...do u see protection for ZB? no. and also, i dont like BL cuz its divine favor and im running a 16 healing prayers build.

im talking about these: glimmer of light, healing light, light of deliverance, word of healing... and its funny how u said /me is the best for e management then u say glyph of lesser energy is the best e management skill...hmm...

Burst Cancel · Jan 02, 2007, 04:41 PM // 16:41

He said Glyph of Lesser because it takes no attribute points and you asked for the best emgt skill that doesn't require much attribute investment. Please read your own damn question.

Healing Breeze and Orison are garbage. I don't understand why they are still coming up after so many people have posted solid arguments for why they are terrible skills.

If you're going to bring a res, there's no reason not to bring Rebirth.

I still don't understand why you would play a pure healing build.

olly123 · Jan 02, 2007, 05:59 PM // 17:59

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Originally Posted by Pick Me

1) Zelous Benediction or Blessed Light (I like BL better - but for pure healing, ZB)
2) /Mesmer
3) Glyph Of Lesser Energy (requires none)
4) No. You should remove hexes and conditions instead of covering them up.
5) Signet of Devotion. Quicker recharge and better heal.
6) Yes. Get ZB instead, as it will heal for the same, but it will also cost 0 energy.

i have to say i agree with pick me there, tho i would add WoH, to the top question

and he said ZB, because ti is better than WoH, self use, same heal and (tho not tecnicly free, if interuped it is still 10e and u have to have a pool of 10e to cast it any way) free, witch means ur have to chang ur build to a protection

ZB
Gift of health
Revesalso of fortue
SoA
PS/SB (prefer PS, as its a sold 20 secons)
Dissmiss condition. (best self remover as well as any remover, nice recharge + good heal with an inchantment on them)
Holy vail/inspire hex
channaling (HA only, res for PVE, other monk move here for other PVP)

have 9/10 in healing with a minor
about 11 in protection with hat + minor
about 4 in insperation
rest in divine with minor

its the perfect protection build

@Burst Cancel, i only take orsiron in HA now, becuase of its only interuptable agians moves that interupt it meands i have a secondery move to heal me, that A takes average time, is low energy and heals for a bit, when touch is recharging, in thoese 5 seocns u coudl b B-spike, rspike - warrior spike any means of spike. if u can name me a skil lto replace it ill b in ur debt, as internal light is easy interuptable ,agiasnt RaOs, thats useless

Ensign · Jan 02, 2007, 09:21 PM // 21:21

The Nightfall Healing elites blow away anything from the first two chapters. Glimmer, Boon, LoD, take your pick, figure out which one you like if you want to play a Healer.

GLE is the best emanagement available to any caster as a secondary.

Peace,
-CxE

holden · Jan 02, 2007, 10:19 PM // 22:19

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Originally Posted by Xeones The Great

wtf pick me, do u see my attributes? 16 heal 12 divine 6 inspiration...do u see protection for ZB? no. and also, i dont like BL cuz its divine favor and im running a 16 healing prayers build.

im talking about these: glimmer of light, healing light, light of deliverance, word of healing... and its funny how u said /me is the best for e management then u say glyph of lesser energy is the best e management skill...hmm...

you ask for experienced opinions, you get one, then you talk shit.

nice.

everything he said was right and you'd be better off with high divine and skills from the prot line than the inferior healing skills.

learn the game a little. then talk trash.

Age · Jan 02, 2007, 10:19 PM // 22:19

I will put it this way.

1 to me is WoH
2 don't use muc of what is in /Mes/N or /E but do use Bonetti's it is good for
bonders.I haven't tried GLE since it buff on my Ele.
3 Same as 2.
4 in PvP no in PvE some places yes and is farming yes.
5 It depends on the situation Sod don't have SoR
6 Yes it does.

bungusmaximus · Jan 03, 2007, 11:06 AM // 11:06

4 player team with me being the only monk: Zealous Benediction
PvP with more monks: Blessed Light
PvE: Word of Healing
as for te rest its very dependent on the situation I'm in, rigid builds are a little too easy

Sab · Jan 03, 2007, 12:05 PM // 12:05

Know that there's more to Monking than the Healing line. But in any case, Healer's Boon, Light of Deliverance and Glimmer of Light are generally the best Healing elites, and Blessed Light and Zealous Benediction for Prot.

Channeling for EManagement in HA, Glyph of Lesser Energy for everywhere else.

Blu · Jan 04, 2007, 06:15 PM // 18:15

1. WoH, LoD, Glimmer perhaps
2. Probably Mesmer
3. Channeling, glyph of lesser energy
4. No, you could be using better skills for 10 energy
5. Signet of devotion is more pvpish i guess, while signet of rejuvenation is good with people spamming something
6. Yes, from my experience it has worked well, as you can heal regularly with ease and spike heal

Xeones The Great · Jan 04, 2007, 09:39 PM // 21:39

so, are heal monks officially out of businessnow or what? is prot way WAY better than healing? well, that sucks. =[

ok, i changed my mind. i need answers for PvE for later game mission with 8 ppl, 1 prot monk, 1 heal monk. =]

from what i have collected:

Mo/E

heal - 16
DF - 13
prot - 3

word of healing {E}
infuse health
glyph of lesser energy
heal party
sig of devotion
healing touch
mend condition
rebirth

how is it???

random.name · Jan 04, 2007, 10:11 PM // 22:11

For a pure healer I run:

1. Word of Healing
2. Healing Whisper
3. Orison of Healing (yeah, I know it sucks, but its a selfheal)
4. Signet of Rejuvenation
5. Heal Party (in rof missions a must)
6. Hex removal
7. Condition removal
8. Rebirth

For prot I run
1. ZB
2. RoF
3. SoA
4. Gift of Health
6. PS or SB depending on the mission.
6. Hex Removal
7. Condition Removal
8. Rebirth

Mostly I find myself running the second build only. It heals as well as a full heal build, with the added bonus of better energy management, and serious protection.

For energy management you dont need a secondary, you just need self control.

Lastly I wish to point out that you were asking for build help. Just because you dont like the answer, does not mean you are allowed to flame a poster. If you dont want to hear the answers, dont ask the questions.

blackdoctor · Jan 04, 2007, 10:37 PM // 22:37

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Originally Posted by random.name

For a pure healer I run:

3. Orison of Healing (yeah, I know it sucks, but its a selfheal)

First of all Orison of Healing never sucks, it's a cheap healing, low energy, good recharge, good cast, the bread and butter of every monk healer.

About selfheal i guess you are missing healing touch, free bonus from divine favor.

Protective Spirit is a must on every monk build, no matter if you are smitter, healer or prot, one of the best skills for spikes.

And for this statement:

For energy management you dont need a secondary, you just need self control.

It's so BEAUTIFUL man, you are my new idol, lol, many people forget that a monk must help to complete the quest the mission or the quest, not to keep everyone alive, specially those that want to be Leeroy Wankers.

Regards

Burst Cancel · Jan 04, 2007, 11:26 PM // 23:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackdoctor

First of all Orison of Healing never sucks, it's a cheap healing, low energy, good recharge, good cast, the bread and butter of every monk healer.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...9&postcount=18

Orison is a terrible skill.
Orison is a terrible skill.
Orison is a terrible skill.
Orison is a terrible skill.
Orison is a terrible skill.
Orison is a terrible skill.
Orison is a terrible skill.
Orison is a terrible skill.
Orison is a terrible skill.
Orison is a terrible skill.

Thom Bangalter · Jan 05, 2007, 12:12 AM // 00:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xeones The Great

answer these for pvp and pve

1- whats the best healing elite?
2- whats the best secondary for e-management?
3- whats the best e-management skill that doesnt require too many attribute points in the respective attribute?
4- healing breeze. yes or no?
5- signet of devotion or signet of rejuvenation?
6- woh/infuse...does it work?

plz dont tell me to try them out myself, because i sorta have, but i need experienced opinions, thx =]

1. Blessed light, or possibly zealous benediction.
2. elementalist for glyph of lesser energy
3. glyph of lesser energy.
4. Not if you're seriously monking.
5. Signet of devotion.
6. if the other monk has woh, yes.